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Press Gazette: Grey Cardigan: October column

  • lawrenceshaw · 2 months ago
    Wow...a fantastically ill-informed piece of ignorant and unnecessarily offensive anti-union bile.

    The General Secretary's article was about the spate of workplace occupations and wildcat strikes that have recently taken place in workplaces across the UK in 2009.

    In the context of Claire Enders' prediction that half of all local newspaper titles in the UK face closure before 2013, the likelihood of some journalists somewhere occupying their newspaper offices after their bosses shut the paper down after years of mismanagement isn't that unlikely. Particularly in areas where there are simply no other journalistic jobs to go to.

    They may well work for free - at least for a short period - in the hope an alternative business model can be worked out or another owner found - possibly one not demanding 40% returns on turnover. This is because a lot of journalists see their role as serving their communities and playing a role in society, rather than simply doing the job for the money. Clearly this is something you fail to appreciate or understand.

    The NUJ is busily researching alternative ownership models, recruiting and building influence into new media workplaces, and making the case for quality journalism wherever we can to anyone that will listen. For example, I have just come back into the office from leafleting delegates to the Conservative Party conference to campaign against top-slicing the licence fee. Is that the activity of a bunch of "fucking loon Trots"?

    We win millions in compensation every year for journalists who have been unfairly dismissed or made ill by bullies like you.

    We are assisting a whole group of young people, many of whom have joined the union in the past few weeks, at the Press Association in Howden due to dozens of planned job cuts. I've represented and won cases for dozens of young people who "cough-up" their membership fees because they see the need for maximum unity of all journalists - of all political shades - to fight for our industry.

    Perhaps you could come out from behind your convenient cloak of anonymity and debate seriously with NUJ representatives about why you think journalists are better off without a union. I would dearly love to see you try.

    Lawrence Shaw
    NUJ Assistant Organiser (North and Midlands of England)
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    I'll tell you what's loony, sitting and writing a long whine about how terrible it is that businesses are ruining your industry and sacking all your mates, and then doing absolutely nothing about it while simultaneously slagging off the only people who are actually making an effort to fight back.

    Your craven cowardice in keeping your head down through this whole process (yeah I'm sure everyone believes you kept your mouth shut because "he just wouldn't get it") is as complicit as that of the editor, chief executive or chairman in bowing to know-nothing accountants in the search for the staff-free office.

    While this is your prerogative as an individual, it's singularly unimpressive that you'd then try and influence others to follow you in leaving their spine at the door.
  • Albert Dock · 2 months ago
    Given the depths of despair that many NUJ members feel about the way their industry has been pillaged and left for dead by the super profits-driven big corporations, it is no wonder desperate measures are being discussed. At some point it will be journalists taking matters into their own hands that will rescue their craft. Whether it be by occupation of the workplace or strike action, many journalists are close to the point where they say 'enough is enough' and are looking to fightback. There is still a great profession and industry worth struggling for and it's only the NUJ that can give journalists the means to do so.
  • tomdavies · 2 months ago
    It's interesting, that your column devotes much space to bemoaning the self-serving idiocies and cutbacks that characterise much modern media management.

    This is stuff that many people who work in the industry clearly identify with. Yet your response to all this is to sit back and whinge about it rather than do anything so vulgar as try to actively organise against it and try to make things better, which is what the union attempts to do - and succeeds more often than is given credit.

    I know this column's a bit of a non-serious wind-up, but wind-ups and satire need to be accurate to be good or funny. This ignorant anti-union rant, while doubtless welcomed by the bosses against whom you claim to rail, is neither - just another unthinking piece of self-justification for inaction.

    Armchair critics - doncha just love 'em. So do the bean-counters.
  • Peter Murray · 2 months ago
    If you think arguing against every single proposed job loss in our industry and fighting for quality journalism at every opportunity, with every employer, every politician or fellow journalist makes us "Trots", then I expect any member of the NUJ would be happy to be labelled a Trot. Fact is that the wave of occupations has set the trade union movement alight in 2009 and has inspired everyone campaigning to preserve jobs in the UK in the face of employers' push to drive up profits in the midst of the recession.

    You want ideas about how to save jobs. Where have you been for the last year or more? You certainly can't have had any contact with a union rep, or you'd know the NUJ is taking the argument straight to the proprietors: sometimes through determined face-to-face negotiation, sometimes through industrial action, sometimes through lobbying politicians, sometimes through building up the expertise and confidence of our workplace reps through events such as the forthcoming day-school for activists in the magazine and book sector (there are full details here http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=1354 ). If we ever need to add occupations to that list, so be it.

    You can sit there and call our General Secretary a fucking loon. Who the fcuk are you? The fact is that the occupations have made a difference to how bosses and government ministers think about all workers fighting to save their jobs. And the fact that the NUJ has won recognition as a union which stands up and fights for its members means that we ARE making a difference and young journalists who are new to the profession are joining us every week. They know we are stronger together. That makes a difference. Sitting at your lonely computer screen complaining about the boss' perfume... who cares?

    Peter Murray
    NUJ Vice President
  • Shuttleboy · 2 months ago
    Errr....chaps....he ain't real you know!
  • Gatsby · 2 months ago
    Could we please have a comment from someone who is not actually a Trot?
  • RichSimcox · 2 months ago
    Well Grey, you got the reponse you wanted I guess - comments on your post. Mostly comments from some very frustrated NUJ reps and officials who have actually been doing something to paddle against the wave of shit that's been heaped on our industry in the last year to 18 months - all in the name of belt-tightening that we know is a fraud from the news that TM execs are still pocketing their share options.

    For any real people out there who might be fooled into thinking that this unwarranted, anti-union potshot even vaguely reflects the extent of the NUJ's response to this carnage, have a look at this from June http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=1250
  • donnachadelong · 2 months ago
    OK, how about me? I'm an anarchist, not a Trot. The article's still shite and @Shuttleboy, the fact that he's not real and someone is hiding behind the name is a big part of the problem. But hey, whoever you are behind the Grey Cardigan, you continue to throw stones at the only people who are fighting all these cuts in the media and let's see who you can run to when the cuts come for you.
  • Adam Tinworth · 2 months ago
    There's a wonderful concept called satire. It's been around a wee while now.

    I'm surprised to discover that so few of my NUJ comrades have heard of it…

    :-)
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    Yeah there's also the interesting concept of 'semi-autobiographical'. Even if it is a satire it's unlikely he picks this stuff out of thin air, it'll be based on his own experiences in the workplace. Regardless, if he thinks of himself as part of the journalistic world and in any way a supporter of the fourth estate it's extremely bad form to write screeds designed to undermine journalists' ability and drive to stand up to the bean-counters which infest the industry.
  • Adam Tinworth · 2 months ago
    Oh, I see. He's committed Thought Crime has he?

    Tsk.
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    Am I asking for him to be jailed for it? No. I'm criticising him for being a prat, which is as much a part of free speech as the right to write this tripe in the first place.
  • Adam Tinworth · 2 months ago
    Free speech? I believe that allows taking the mickey out of people who
    can't take a joke, too! Hurrah!
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    Ah yes, the “oh you have not sense of humour” defence, so wittily used against feminists, trades unionists and anyone else who calls right wing pundits on their bad behaviour. Change the record...
  • Adam Tinworth · 2 months ago
    Thank you for making my point so beautifully and eloquently.…
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    Again... record... change...

    Anyway we could do this all night in some sort of horrifying feedback loop, but I'm off work now so er, have fun.
  • Adam Tinworth · 2 months ago
    Thanks! I've enjoyed it immensely!
  • hizzary · 2 months ago
    To be satire the fact that it is satirical has to be obvious. This was too convincing to be satire - Grey meant it. His unfortunate (and very wrong) attitude was probably brought about as a result of watching the NUJ eat itself during the eighties - thanks, Steve Turner and Jake Ecclestone.
    I refused to rejoin then after a spell out of the industry because the union really was then more interested in its own infighting than in its members' interests, and in those days I was able to take care of myself, so luckily it didn't matter.
    However, everything has changed and I would urge everyone still in the biz (I'm now retired) to join the NUJ for their own sakes. It will protect their interests and so help me they need protecting. And note: some of those sit-ins have had a positive effect. Does reflecting that the workers need protection against the profit margin munchers make me a Trot too, Gatsby? If so, I'm proud.
    PS: Grey isn't all wrong. Pity he didn't tell that idiot manager what he was telling us.
  • lawrenceshaw · 2 months ago
    In my experience, you don't need to personally attack individuals as "fucking loons" to be satirical...
  • Dominicponsford · 2 months ago
    For the record, Jeremy Dear is not a "loon", he's a very clever man who has done a lot for the NUJ and for journalism in general. I believe Grey Cardigan was exagerating for comic effect, and making the satirical point that regional newspaper bosses might like the idea of a "work-in".
  • RichSimcox · 2 months ago
    Dominic, if that's the case then perhaps Grey and PG should come out in full support of Jeremy's call for an occupation and then you'll have another story when Sly Bailey and Paul Davidson issue their enthusiastic endorsements. Yes?
  • Dominicponsford · 2 months ago
    If someone wants to lead a sit-in or work-in at a viable regional paper which is being closed because of the short-term drive for unrealistic profit margins I will be there on the barricade.
    There is a terribly sad news feature in the current issue of Press Gazette in which we go back to Long Eaton a year after its paid-for local weekly was closed. After more than a century of publication it was shut down with barely a whimper, announced to the readers with a front page nib
    Let's not go quietly into the night.
  • Sam Spade · 2 months ago
    Yeah well, I can't see a "work-in" being the catalyst that sparks the revolution.

    Can't we have some proper anarchy?
  • donnachadelong · 2 months ago
    It depends - are you saying that the recovered companies in Argentina weren't important? A permanent work-in is basically anarcho-syndicalism. It goes without saying that a work-in, in the current context, would only make sense in opposition to a planned closure. If the management want to close the title you work on, then a work-in is the equivalent of a strike where management want you to work.
  • Hack · 2 months ago
    I think Grey's jaundiced view of the NUJ is perfectly understandable. Union activists behaved like muppets in the good times and lost the NUJ a lot of credibility. I agree that a strong NUJ is needed now but I would never rejoin. I can well remember some of the nut-job FoCs I laboured under for years who were happy to jeopardize colleagues' jobs and careers for the sake of their own political ambitions. Funny how many of them have since become minor politicians or left-wing 'meeja' lecturers. It still makes me sick to recall their pompous pontificating.The NUJ has to rebuild its credibility and this current crisis could help it do that. But please let's remember the reasons why people like Grey and myself fell out of love with the union.
  • Watching from the sidelines · 2 months ago
    Well, I'm all for the NUJ running amok. And for Grey burning the midnight oil while filling in the latest spreadsheet that measures nothing important but helps to keep shedloads of non-productive bean counters on the corporate payroll while more journalists are sacked.
    The sooner we reach the South Sea Bubble-style tipping point leading to the break up of some of these monstrous media groups, the better.
    For four years until 2008 I sat in a seat like Grey's, trying to manage ever-decreasing editorial budgets while driving a diminishing over-worked - but still very motivated - staff to maintain high standards on a host of regional newspapers and websites.
    Meanwhile, our big group posted ever-increasing profits, although you'd never know it from the state of our shabby offices, empty desks and ancient, constantly failing equipment. The editorial staff were magnificent when it came to papering over the cracks. After all, many lived on survival level salaries and were dab hands at making do.
    One day, having filled in the latest 'bench-marking' suicide note, I heard my own Eminence Grease say it was 'time to slay the sacred cow of editorial costs'.
    Since the cow had already been bludgeoned down into a dried and shrivelled economy burger, I was mesmerised. So sharpened was my focus that I 'withdrew my labour' at the first opportunity, preferring redundancy and unemployment to propping up the madness.
    Seriously, the quicker we get to the stage of independently-owned successful start-up or relaunched websites and papers, the more vital public service journalism we might be able to save. Whether it's the NUJ sleeping under broken desks or an almighty crack appearing in the boardroom table, I don't mind if it brings us even a few hours closer to the end of this farce.
  • anon · 2 months ago
    Actually I can see a way that the sit-in could work - register www.therealeveningbeast.com before the sit in and set up a simple website - Instead of uploading the news to the company servers, bung it on your own website.

    Then start flogging on-line ad space....

    and listen to the howls as the management's sphincters tighten...
  • RichSimcox · 2 months ago
    The interesting thing about this is that it all comes from a quote from the NUJ's magazine, the Journalist.

    This shows just how important the magazine is for leading the debate about how we fight the cuts and plan for the future, looking at alternative ownership models like co-ops and new start ups, and discussing our response.

    We need a vibrant Journalist, on paper and on the web, for this. This is the proper role of a union journal, not as just another lifestyle magazine, but as a vital part of the union's armoury - informing, inspiring and mobilising NUJ members. And winning new members along the way.

    That's why I am standing in the election to find the next editor. You can find out more, if you are so inclined, at http://richsimcox.co.uk
  • FSB · 2 months ago
    We're with Grey Cardigan on this one... Sorry, but the sit-in belongs in a Ken Loach film, not a viable plan to save modern journalism.

    http://fleetstreetblues.blogspot.com/2009/10/in...
  • John Nevill · 2 months ago
    Long live the anarchists. One minor problem, if the anarchists get power presumably there won't be any papers because anarchists are opposed to the state and by consequence a state of law and order. With no order people, including hacks, printers, delivery drivers etc etc won't need to work they will just steal what they want. But wait, what if the anarchist wants a hi-fi and the hi-fi worker is an anarchist who refuses to work? Or perhaps he was beaten up by someone stealing his hi-fi and is in hospital. No wait, he wouldn't be in hospital because there is no government organising the hospital funding. So now I can't get a newspaper, a hi-fi or medical treatment. Not much of an upside to this anarchist lark is there?
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    John, piece of advice, don't start an argument when you have no idea what you're talking about. Try libcom.org if you seriously want to tackle the question rather than resorting to lazy stereotypes, it has thousands of articles covering precisely those topics.
  • John Nevill · 2 months ago
    I wasn't aware I was starting a argument but for the record the dictionary describes anarchy as an absence of government in a society; disorder; political or social confusion. Sounds exactly like my explanation, stereotypes notwithstanding.
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    There are two separate definitions in the dictionary. You are arguing against anarchy (ie. chaos), which is not the same thing as anarchism (order without government). The latter has about 150 years of theory behind it, a number of different functional models (eg. anarcho-syndicalism, which is a form of trade unionism emphasising localised mass organisation rather than top-down management) and as I say, thousands of articles, books etc, many available online.

    Hence my reply, blithely dismissing donnachadelong's comment "oh anarchism doesn't work" comes across as pretty argumentative if you're aware of the its massively influential history, the massive range of theories within it etc etc. It'd be like saying "oh the free market doesn't work," which I would argue, but I'd expect a challenge or two no?
  • donnachadelong · 2 months ago
    Two words - Rudolf Rocker (start here: http://www.thejournalist.org.uk/SepOct08/reg_op..., then here: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/rocke... and, ultimately, here: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=RO48DvStEX8C... ). Try some reading and then come back when you know something about the topic.
  • John Nevill · 2 months ago
    Two words? I counted at least 20, but then it's always difficult keeping to a word count when the subject is so interesting.
  • donnachadelong · 2 months ago
    The two words were "Rudolf" and "Rocker". The rest is just decoration ;-)
  • tungstentip · 2 months ago
    All the NUJ people on here weeping, wailing, swearing and going so over the top - congratulations you've lost my £12.50 every month for your bizarre reaction to this.
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    Wow people getting annoyed about having their union slagged off by a do-nothing whinger is sufficient to have you cancelling your membership? What a trooper.
  • tungstentip · 2 months ago
    Not just people getting annoyed Rob - but what they have written. People like you. P.s Thanks for patronising me.
  • Rob Ray · 2 months ago
    Not at all, happy to do it.

    Thing is, it appears you appear to have no problem with lefties being called "fucking loons" but if the writer of this nasty little piece is as a result called a coward (which was the worst thing I said), wrong or ignorant you immediately leap on it as evidence of abominable behaviour?
  • Sam Spade · 2 months ago
    I only went to one NUJ meeting.
    It was in the upstairs room above a seedy pub in the late-80s and was attended almost entirely by angry, bearded young men from the local BBC radio newsroom.
    They were very keen on dreaming up new ways to bring the Corporation crashing down, and also with showing solidarity with Sinn Fein, whose voice had been banned from the airwaves,
    We voted to send a letter to the landlord demanding he changed the name of the pub we were in from the George & Dragon to "The Neslon Mandela" to raise awareness in the town.*
    I realised quite quickly I wasn't going to fit in and never went back.
    *May not be completely true but based on a true story.
  • eveningeditor · 2 months ago
    Fantastically funny. And that was just the third piece! The first on ANOTHER editorial change is so, so true, and it does us good to laff sometimes. The second on the chat with the newspaper sales director is incredibly accurate and, again, side-splitting in that it's true. In fairness, the newspaper sales people on the paper I work for are aware of the affects of cuts, but the number of times editors have to bang directors' heads together with the news that such cuts contribute to a shrinking sale... God give us strength! Thanks, Grey, for telling it like it is with that Monty Python needle of hilarity. You keep me sane. Just. (PS: Dominic... have you thought of producing a book for Christmas with the entire collection of Grey? Might raise a few funds for your business and an extra few quid for the freelance concerned...)
  • ex_member · 2 months ago
    This kind of argument goes on - and round and around in circles - at REAL NUJ chapel meetings, believe it or not!

    I know, I used to go to them...

    And now the union threatens strike action, works to rule then goes back to normal for the same as what was originally offered by the management.

    Of course, there are pay freezes now, so not even an annual pay round to respond to.
  • blogboy · 2 months ago
    Great, the stuff I read. He does sound like a loon for suggesting a work in, which is almost as pointless as paying subs to the NUJ. But there you go...
  • greycardigan · 2 months ago
    OK you Trots, so here’s what you should be doing instead of whining around the braziers or plotting a pointless sit-in.

    Whenever a well-established, financially-viable newspaper is closed down by the panicking corporate suits – and Long Eaton springs to mind - you need to get in there with a sensible business plan based on sensible costs and a sensible margin. Rally the local businesses; seek out local investors with a few bob to spend (every town has them, even in these difficult times); lean on the local council and the regional quangos; put together a local management team backed up by national expertise (you do still know how to do journalism, don’t you?).

    The NUJ should create a template for a sensible and viable newspaper business that could be applied wherever the need or opportunity arises. We should be snatching these ‘doomed’ titles back from the greedy bastards who don’t understand or care about our craft and its importance to the community. Fuck them – if they don’t want them, we’ll have them.

    Of course, if that’s too challenging, you could always just write another condolence note to Colonel Gaddafi…
  • donnachadelong · 2 months ago
    Eh, we're working on it -
    http://jonslattery.blogspot.com/2009/03/greensl...
    http://jonslattery.blogspot.com/2009/04/exclusi...
    , we just haven't yet come up with easy answers (like most of the bosses).
  • Gatsby · 2 months ago
    Ah, the old "Colonel Gaddafi telegram" chestnut. Wondered when you would get round to it. Was such a message ever sent by the NUJ?
    I know that behind the Grey Cardigan persona there is a former newspaper journalist. So, GC, why don't you answer the question once and for all: Gaddaffi Telegram: Fact or Fiction? (You do still know how to do journalism, don't you?)
  • greycardigan · 2 months ago
    From Jon Slattery's blog: An emergency motion was passed at the 1986 NUJ ADM stating that the union should send a “telegram of condolence “ to Gaddafi the day after Libya was bombed by US planes based in Britain. The story went out on PA and caused a storm in the national press and within the union. It led to 96 NUJ members resigning – including Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie. Not sure if a telegram was ever sent but the damage was done.
  • Gatsby · 2 months ago
    I am well aware of all of that.

    The question I asked you is: was the telegram sent?

    Are you going to use your journalisatic skills to find out?
  • sideline watcher, thank god · 2 months ago
    Don't know about the Col Gadaffi telegram, but I did see a rather large NUJ banner at a "unite against fascism" rally in Manchester at the weekend (a misnomer if ever there was one). The bloody TUC wouldn't even take part with these loons because they're so far to the left that they make infra red look like ultra violet. But the NUJ was there. What the hell has that got to do with saving journalism? I ask the question rhetorically, because this ridiculous obsession with the far-left is part of the reason I left the NUJ in the first place!
  • Sam Spade · 2 months ago
    Nice thought Grey, the suits selling newspapers to local people who want to run them.

    But they'd rather close them anyway.

    Firstly out of spite, and also as a way to "minimise the threat to the core revenue stream."
  • greycardigan · 2 months ago
    From Holdthefrontpage:

    The election for editor of the National Union of Journalists' magazine turned bitter today with one of the candidates accused of being part of a hard-left plot to take over the union.

    Freelance journalist Mark Watts circulated an email to 19,000 NUJ members naming rival candidate Richard Simcox as a member of a faction calling itself "NUJ Left."

    Mr Watts claimed the faction was using the election for editor of Journalist magazine as part of a bid to take control of the union's ruling national executive.